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Re: The origins of Scottish Airs and the Irish Connection

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:48 am
by iain beag
Sorry for the dig I didn't mean it in a nasty way, I took your comment the wrong way.
I'll consider mysel' slapped

Nice Jacket, is it yours? :)

Re: The origins of Scottish Airs and the Irish Connection

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:54 am
by Nanohedron
I wish I could say "yes". I'd feel like such a lumberjack if it were.

...a stylish, au courant metrosexual lumberjack who orders his togs from Milan, true, but a lumberjack all the same.

By the way, please don't consider yourself slapped. Lumberjacks don't slap; it's prissy and not true to type. We'd much rather go head-to-head, locking horns in the gritty primal struggle of light and witty repartee, preferably over a good espresso. Al fresco, of course. :wink:

Re: The origins of Scottish Airs and the Irish Connection

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:31 pm
by cboody
"He's a lumberjack and he's OK...." - Monty Python

Re: The origins of Scottish Airs and the Irish Connection

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:35 pm
by Nanohedron
I'm such a troll. It's shameful, really. :D

Re: The origins of Scottish Airs and the Irish Connection

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:41 pm
by Denny
:thumbsup: :D :thumbsup:

Re: The origins of Scottish Airs and the Irish Connection

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:30 am
by Makar
Nanohedron wrote:I'm such a troll. It's shameful, really. :D

I note you're from Minneapolis - you're not Prince the purple wonder troll are you? I could sell you some original tartan that your forebears wore whilst hunting haggis here in the mother land!

Very cheap and certainly authentic - it said so in a wiki...

Re: The origins of Scottish Airs and the Irish Connection

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:23 am
by Nanohedron
Who, this guy?

Image

No, not me. Let's call him Prince Churly. I see he/she/it is wearing the Stewart Hunting Accident tartan, so that works.

Re: The origins of Scottish Airs and the Irish Connection

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:56 am
by anniemcu
(snerk!)

Re: The origins of Scottish Airs and the Irish Connection

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:27 pm
by highland-piper
iain beag wrote:
Regarding the connection to song, as far as I can see all the documentary evidence dies out in the mid 1800's. Are you aware of some evidence from an earlier period?
I'm not sure that the connection died out although I can't say when it started,
The evidence trail for piobaireachd going backwards stops in about 1760. The evidence for gaelic song ends at about the same time. In other words, the origins of both musical traditions are lost in the mists of time. Unless someone produces previously unknown evidence we can only guess about any period of time prior.


I'm still not convinced about piobaireachd starting in Ireland, yes it most likely started on the harp but I think it was a musical style that was used around Europe.
If you ever uncover any evidence to support your idea it would change the current understanding of the history of western music. :thumbsup:

Piobaireachd as we know it today was no doubt developed (or was refined, or 'perfected') on pipes; the music the Welsh played on harp before then, that they say they got from the Irish (and which is documented nowhere else in Europe) is similar in many ways (too similar for coincidence).