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Hi Guys,
wondering if any of you know anything about this type of flute. Been around the house for years, but no one seems to know where it originated! Ive recently been playing it so just thought id try to get some more info on it.
Thanks
wondering if any of you know anything about this type of flute. Been around the house for years, but no one seems to know where it originated! Ive recently been playing it so just thought id try to get some more info on it.
Thanks
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Hi, Lycante, and welcome. Your flute is German (or possibly Czech/Austrian) made, probably between 1860 and 1920, most likely somewhere in the middle of that range. Can't see from the pics what timber it is, but these are usually either Cocuswood or Grenadilla. If it is very dark brown to black and has fine "wormtrack" surface grain, then it's more likely Grenadilla: redder tinge and smooth surface and it's Cocus (a Caribbean rosewood). Quite often these were finished with a black laquer on the outside, so it may be hard to tell without removing the laquer if it is one of those. The keys, ferrule bands, pillars etc. are German Silver, a cupro-nickel alloy which patinates to a dull yellowish-pewtery colour: polished up, it will look like gold until the patina starts to come back. These were cheaply mass produced in the late C19th and early C20th and are pretty common. Some play very nicely, others are unspeakably bad. Hope yours turns out a good one!
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I respect people's privilege to hold their beliefs, whatever those may be (within reason), but respect the beliefs themselves? You gotta be kidding!
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It sounds awesome, as a matter of fact. Haven't finished figuring it all out, but so far, I'm very pleased with it. Only bought it two days ago.
For some reason, though, the more people I show it to, the more confused I am about how old/what it is.
Someone (actually a flute expert) said this model was rarely made after the 1600's.
Someone else (also a flute expert) said something along the lines of what you said, jemtheflute.
Yet another person (not really an expert) said it's even newer than that.
Only thing I know for sure is, the shopkeeper was way more confused than I am, judging by what it cost me.
(I'm not really an expert, or a real flute player, as I've only played an end-blown and I'm "upgrading", but as I see it, it was basically free for what it's worth.)
Also, the metal parts look like silver when polished, nothing like gold. Which is a good thing, I hate gold.
For some reason, though, the more people I show it to, the more confused I am about how old/what it is.
Someone (actually a flute expert) said this model was rarely made after the 1600's.
Someone else (also a flute expert) said something along the lines of what you said, jemtheflute.
Yet another person (not really an expert) said it's even newer than that.
Only thing I know for sure is, the shopkeeper was way more confused than I am, judging by what it cost me.
(I'm not really an expert, or a real flute player, as I've only played an end-blown and I'm "upgrading", but as I see it, it was basically free for what it's worth.)
Also, the metal parts look like silver when polished, nothing like gold. Which is a good thing, I hate gold.
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean the whole world's not out to get me.
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Well, the person who said pre 1600 was talking out of a nether orifice. Have a look at Rick Wilson's website, http://www.oldflutes.com plus do any reading you care to online or elsewhere about flute history and you'll soon appreciate that s/he didn't know what they were talking about. Pre-Baroque flutes were not made from tropical hardwoods and had no keys, and certainly not pillar mounted German Silver ones, leave alone a load of other disagnostic typological features! It is very unlikely to be later than 1st 1/4 C20th, though that is less demonstrably certain.Lycante wrote:Someone (actually a flute expert) said this model was rarely made after the 1600's.
Someone else (also a flute expert) said something along the lines of what you said, jemtheflute.
Yet another person (not really an expert) said it's even newer than that..
The amount of copper in, and therefore the yellowness of the German Silver does vary: sometimes it can look more like silver, but I don't think it ever looks convincingly like real sterling silver.
Glad it plays well for you and that you got it cheap. Post a clip sometime on the clips sticky.
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From top:
- Hamilton 6-key
- Prowse Nicholson
- Aebi Rudall
- my Aebi Pratten on the right
And the whistles, also from top:
- old Bleazey D from Mopane (I guess)
- Harper D
- Humphrey D Trad
- again
- new Bleazey D from blackwood
...was a nice session
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Just back in from a heavy weekend giging & boozing......so after a quick nap i have just set up my Ormiston to give it my daily practice and a good clean up! Had 2 gigs yesterday about 5 hours playing between the two and a gig on friday and saturday night! Notice the dry/colour change around the mouthpiece and tone holes....must admit i do sweat a bit under they stage lights! Almond oil & silver cleaning cloth coming up!
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Re: Any info on this?
i recall flutemaker brendan mcmahon of ennis (?) made some flutes like that years ago. not sure if flute in photo is his work. i think the idea is supposd to be an easy to play headjoint/embouchure.Anzer wrote:Hi Guys,
wondering if any of you know anything about this type of flute. Been around the house for years, but no one seems to know where it originated! Ive recently been playing it so just thought id try to get some more info on it.
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