Posting clips

ImNotIrish · Post by **ImNotIrish** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:00 am

Othannen,

Thanks for listening. You're right about too much air in the upper octave. I think that's why I asked for some feedback on the tuning. The tune is off of an old tape by a New England band called How to Change a Flat Tire.
I played it as best I cold remember as I learned it many years ago, and struggled to put the tune back together from memory. I'll work on tighten up my embrochure. Thanks again, Arbo.

mahanpots · Post by **mahanpots** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:19 pm

Here's a couple of hornpipes. The short version is just one hornpipe; long version -- two: McGivney's Fancy and The Flowing Tide.

Recorded after a morning of practicing my intonation.

McGivney's

McGivney's and Flowing

Michael

ImNotIrish · Post by **ImNotIrish** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:04 pm

Another version of the Torn Jacket. I precede it with O'Connell's trip to Parliment. I hear these played together at my local sessions.

Arbo

http://www.box.net/shared/oeqcpcvswk

Jayhawk · Post by **Jayhawk** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:20 pm

Here's a hornpipe I learned as Callahans:

http://www.box.net/shared/qckangpogk

I think we're short on hornpipes in this thread.

Eric

NicoMoreno · Post by **NicoMoreno** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:51 am

Jayhawk wrote:Here's a hornpipe I learned as Callahans:

http://www.box.net/shared/qckangpogk

I think we're short on hornpipes in this thread.

Eric

That's Cronin's hornpipe. Here's Paddy Cronin playing it.

Cayden · Post by **Cayden** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:08 pm

NicoMoreno wrote: Here's Paddy Cronin playing it.

Oy!

Rob Sharer · Post by **Rob Sharer** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:26 pm

How DOES he get his flute to sound so stringy?

Seriously, now, that is one beautiful track. A good trick would be to get that sort of easygoing yet energetic bounce on the flute. Off to try now...

Rob

NicoMoreno · Post by **NicoMoreno** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:40 pm

Peter Laban wrote:
NicoMoreno wrote: Here's Paddy Cronin playing it.
Oy!

Oy is right.

Thank you once again for this track, kind sir! (and to bloomie for hosting it...)

If anyone wants me to edit and remove my link, let me know!

Oh, and Rob... Oh how I know what you mean! I've been listening off and on (like, I will hit repeat 20 times in a row, then do that again the next day, etc) to Master Cronin playing the Doon (#2) reel and Hickey's, and oh how I want his playing reflected in my fluting!

Jayhawk · Post by **Jayhawk** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:23 pm

Nico & Peter - thanks for identifying the hornpipe! I learned it from Turlach, and on my lesson cassette he called it Callahans...but I couldn't find anything on the session.org or other sites that had a Callahans matching what I was playing.

Cronins it is then! I truly appreciate the correct ID.

Eric

jemtheflute · Post by **jemtheflute** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:06 pm

I like the original Cronin recording! I learnt this one long ago from Liam O'Flynn's rendition of it with Planxty - paired with The Fisherman's Lilt - something of a stock session set......... but great for all that.

Cayden · Post by **Cayden** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:57 pm

Seriously, now, that is one beautiful track. A good trick would be to get that sort of easygoing yet energetic bounce on the flute. Off to try now...

You probably want to listen to the Copley 78 rpms of Cronin and Frank Neylon on the flute, they're pretty well matched.

Rob Sharer · Post by **Rob Sharer** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:23 pm

Thanks for the tip, and here's to 1000 responses on this thread. Bumpers, lads!

Rob

monkey587 · Post by **monkey587** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:57 pm

Peter Laban wrote:
Seriously, now, that is one beautiful track. A good trick would be to get that sort of easygoing yet energetic bounce on the flute. Off to try now...
You probably want to listen to the Copley 78 rpms of Cronin and Frank Neylon on the flute, they're pretty well matched.

Kevin Rietman strikes again

jemtheflute · Post by **jemtheflute** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:42 am

Jayhawk - somewhat belatedly I 've just gone back and listened to your rendition of Cronin's Hornpipe. I hope you won't mind me making this point, but I think it is one of those instances of something that has been discussed in other threads recently - the difference between learning variant, equally valid versions (or making your own setting) of a tune and just getting bits "wrong". It really stood out to me as soon as I started listening.

In the opening phrase of the tune, and every time that recurs, you play:

B>A | G>A B>c d>B d>e | etc.

Cronin, O'Flynn and most folk play:

B>A | G>A B>d d>B d>e | etc., separating the repeated Ds with a cut, tap, tongue, bow-stroke or whatever, or even tying them and pushing the off-beat rhythm.

Have a listen to the original Cronin clip, or to Planxty, for the baseline version. That C natural really doesn't belong!

I realise your scale with C is doubtless what you learned from your source, but I strongly advise revising it - it clashes with the baseline version should you play it in company, and melodically it is a distortion of the original that grates on the ear of anyone familiar with the tune.

I agree about the lack of hornpipes here.... but must confess that, like a great many of us, I haven't actually got much of a repertory of hornpipes. We should all learn and play more of them!

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Just for fun, here are a couple "I did (wrote) earlier" (pace Blue Peter!)

The First Hour of Sunday (On whistle.)

The First Great Ballyvourney Flute Meeting (On flute.)

It's also here on whistle with more improvised variation 2nd time through, to which hornpipes particularly tend to lend themselves, IMO, - and mistakes as a result!

(Apt timing for the latter since the second one is this weekend, ending today.)

ImNotIrish · Post by **ImNotIrish** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:51 am

jemtheflute wrote: I agree about the lack of hornpipes here.... but must confess that, like a great many of us, I haven't actually got much of a repertory of hornpipes. We should all learn and play more of them!

Me too! Any suggestions for a great hornpipe set (other than the one mentioned)?
Thanks, Arbo.