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If you need to move some part of your body to keep time maybe you should consider taking up an instrument more suited to your talents,like the bodhran.

RORY

My left foot likes to be involved. Sometimes. It is DANCE music were talking about.

rorybbellows wrote:If you need to move some part of your body to keep time maybe you should consider taking up an instrument more suited to your talents,like the bodhran.

RORY

Say that to Martin Hayes !

oliver wrote:Say that to Martin Hayes !

People don't listen to Martin Hayes because they think he's a great foot tapper.

RORY

rorybbellows wrote:If you need to move some part of your body to keep time maybe you should consider taking up an instrument more suited to your talents,like the bodhran.

You're not into Québecois trad, are you?

I've wondered about how folks actually feel about this, as I see much less foot tapping then in the Scottish/Cape Breton music. Do most people feel the way Rory does, that they would rather no one tapped their feet while playing?

Do most people feel the way Rory does, that they would rather no one tapped their feet while playing?

I think foot tapping as you hear it in Irish music only adds a layer of noise. Podorythmie in the Cape Breton sense may be a different matter but , by and large, you don't really find that in Irish music and I don't believe it would be a practical option anyway when you have the body of a set of pipes sitting across your lap.

Mr.Gumby wrote:I don't think there are any hard andfast rules. It's merely a crutch we hang on to to keep time I suppose. Leo Rowsome had it as one of the 'Don't's in his tutor. I know a few people who can play sitting still without moving as much as a toe and play a rock-solid rhythm. I think that's a good thing. Then again, some make a virtue, or a feature, out of tapping their feet: anyone remember Mick Conroy?

I took Leo's advice to heart, tapping just seemed to get in the way of playing the regulators anyway. Then I got that Rita Byxbe tape from the 1964 Oireachtas, where Leo takes the stage and you hear this "BOMP! BOMP! BOMP! BOMP!"

Still don't tap. I think I can pound out a good beat - on the banjo, that is. The sean-nos dancing teacher I play for on occasion never has any complaints about my tempo, anyway. When I put on the pipes - at home - I like to revel in Reck-style rubato. "For the head and heart not feet and floor!"

So, this Mick Conroy is Andy's brother, right? Did he clog ala Canadian musicians? When I took up an interest in trad music I found an old Folkways LP of Quebec music with some cuts of melodeon + clogging, I always thought was great stuff.

Also - who "invented" tapping the foot double time? Older players don't do that all, including most baby boomers, but it seems de rigeur amongst youngsters these days. People tell me Jerry O'Sullivan was doing that over 30 years ago so perhaps it comes from Yonkers. Good thing he didn't popularize having the eyeballs rolling back into the head... Very intense fellow, Jerry. Onstage, anyway.

rorybbellows wrote:

oliver wrote:Say that to Martin Hayes !

People don't listen to Martin Hayes because they think he's a great foot tapper.

RORY

Of course, but I just like the way his whole body is involved when he plays... He's also a joy to watch, and not just to listen to.

If foot-tapping is done to keep time, it's a bad idea, feet are by no means a metronome...
To me foot-tapping's like anything else, it's ok when it's well done... which implies not spoiling the music.

PJ wrote:When I started piping, I was unable to tap my foot while playing. When I got more proficient with the chanter, I found that I was tapping my foot without thinking. These days, I can't tap my foot if I'm playing the regs - there's just too much going on!!

I find the same thing is happening with me! I am starting to tap. My Rhythm still needs some errr.... Refinement though. Gotta whip out my metronone.





And with foot tapping, I don't mind it at all. It may be weird of me (I am generally a weird person, lel) but I actually enjoy the occasional stomp of the foot. Makes it all the more organic and authentic. IMHO

Foot tapping usually degrades my concentration on an already complex instrument that is using a lot of my focus.

Is this mostly discouraged in sessions?

I did a quick search of the first six pipers to pop into my head on youtube and clicked on the first video I saw and all of them are tapping their feet.

Mick O'Brien

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S7LYRnvzlc

Michael McGoldrick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnhPivtfUKU

Tiarnan O Duinnchinn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihq0dbwFQsE

David Power

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXJ4QZPNc94

Paddy Keenan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHI5lcMOWpU

Even Paddy Maloney

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7pDiO52xSs



And the previously mentioned Jerry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTy8i-v8owM


Sorry, I can't stop myself from clicking on links!

Robbie Hannan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfX17kGGhvo


Padraig McGovern

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FE4RzBbAPU


Cillian Vallely, once he gets to the dance music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9HwsawxMH0


Brain MacNamara:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdnqGufqXJo


Elliot Grasso:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpQ-8YErxf4


Almost forgot Joey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plf8NgotEzo

Here's Séamus Ennis also! Heck! They even zoom on on those leather shoes of his! ♪♫*Click* *clack* *clack* *click* *clack *clack* *click* *clack* *click*♫♪


Willie Clancy also taps, and even stomps hit foot on occasion.

Hey Elbowmusic,
did you not find the videos of Rory Bellows ?

Fred Morrison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgRHnz3UR-A