Who plays old flutes?
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Who plays old flutes?
Hi fluters,
I wonder how many of us are playing old flutes, i.e. antique ones made long before we all were alive, as their main instruments (if such a thing exists among us polyfluticious lunatics). What do they have to offer what others don't have?
Come on, do tell!
I wonder how many of us are playing old flutes, i.e. antique ones made long before we all were alive, as their main instruments (if such a thing exists among us polyfluticious lunatics). What do they have to offer what others don't have?
Come on, do tell!
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I play a William Hall & Son six key in cocus. Originally it had ivory rings, although I believe that they've all been replaced. It's essentially identical to the Firth, Hall, & Pond six key that Grey Larsen plays and that was the pattern for McGee's GLP. It's a great flute. One of Jon C's refurb jobs. I've had it for about three years, I think.
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Re: Who plays old flutes?
My main and at the moment, only axe is a potentially english, probably 19th centuray wooden keyed flute restored by Jem, its an absolute star, and my only complaint about it is that i cant blaim it for my own faults as a player.
What does it offer that other flutes dont?
History,
Challenge,
A full rack of keys for cheep
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that's why i bought my first antique flute... i got a 6-key boxwood for $350. you have to be kidding me!chris_coreline wrote:A full rack of keys for cheep
then i got a german flute on ebay and had Jon C restore it... i got lucky and it's pretty in tune, so i got a blackwood 8-key flute for less than $300. that's about 10% of the cost of a new one. imagine getting a 90% discount on a new flute.
i just won a william & son 4-key in cocus on ebay, but it hasn't got here yet... hopefully my lucky streak will continue. but Pat plays a similar one, i believe, as his main flute, so you can ask him.
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Hi Gabriel,
I play a few antiques. My main go to flute now is a Blackman, London I got from Jon C. I haven't had it that long but love it.
It just responds nicely to everthing I give it. The rings are beautiful and the low keys respond well. It's low pitched but I play sharp so plays okay with the head all the way in.
I also have an anonymous Metzlerish flute also from Jon C. that I like but I would like a new head as it is a little quiet even after a year or so adjusting and trying to get more volume. The intonation is really good for an antique even with the slide out a bit. I have trouble with the low C but C sharp is no problem. AL under keys.
Here is an old clip made not long after I got the flute and before I had control of top hand rolls (which only came recently after 14 or so years of playing):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t-aG1Jb ... re=related
My other D is an unlined boxwood Olwell. I prefer the antiques these days but the tuning on the Olwell can't be beat and take less overall effort. Can relax a bit more on modern flutes if that makes sense but the effort is well worth it with the others. More honk on the Blackman for me a the moment will have to get some up to date clips.
And of course we all know Jon C is the man for you're antique flute needs, Thank You Jon
I play a few antiques. My main go to flute now is a Blackman, London I got from Jon C. I haven't had it that long but love it.
It just responds nicely to everthing I give it. The rings are beautiful and the low keys respond well. It's low pitched but I play sharp so plays okay with the head all the way in.
I also have an anonymous Metzlerish flute also from Jon C. that I like but I would like a new head as it is a little quiet even after a year or so adjusting and trying to get more volume. The intonation is really good for an antique even with the slide out a bit. I have trouble with the low C but C sharp is no problem. AL under keys.
Here is an old clip made not long after I got the flute and before I had control of top hand rolls (which only came recently after 14 or so years of playing):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t-aG1Jb ... re=related
My other D is an unlined boxwood Olwell. I prefer the antiques these days but the tuning on the Olwell can't be beat and take less overall effort. Can relax a bit more on modern flutes if that makes sense but the effort is well worth it with the others. More honk on the Blackman for me a the moment will have to get some up to date clips.
And of course we all know Jon C is the man for you're antique flute needs, Thank You Jon
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Do I really need to say....... ?
I respect people's privilege to hold their beliefs, whatever those may be (within reason), but respect the beliefs themselves? You gotta be kidding!
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No Jem, but I entirely understand you. Mine is great as well.
Ah, and that Blackman looks nice...
Ah, and that Blackman looks nice...
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Re: Who plays old flutes?
I've very recently moved to an antique flute, a six key HY Potter in cocuswood, large hole rudall style. It's taking a while to get used to the embouchure, very different from the easy one on the average modern flute. I'll give more details in a few weeks of months, but anyway it's really lovely.
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I regularly play an eight-key William Hall & Son too. A very nice flute that keeps up with three fiddles, a concertina, drum, bouzuki and a whistle player every Thursday night. Here is its twin at the Dayton-Miller collection. Jon called it a train wreck when he first saw it, but he returned it a beauty. Doug.
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My main flute is a 4-key Wm Hall with a John Gallagher headjoint. In response to an earlier post - I physically laid mine next to Grey Larsen's during one of our workshops and the body is identical to his Firth and Pond. His has 6 keys and mine has 4, but the hole sizes and placements and the tube size are all virtually identical. I love this flute (a lot). Not sure if I'll ever find one I like better, but I AM a "fickle fluter", so no guarantees! Now if I just had a spare $3000+ for one of John Gallagher's 6-key R & R models, well...
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Re: Who plays old flutes?
hmmm let's see..they offer... cracks, broken keys, warped bores, strangled tenons, off pitched, unmodern tuning, false pride, denial; i guess they call all that 'character'.Gabriel wrote:Hi fluters,
I wonder how many of us are playing old flutes, i.e. antique ones made long before we all were alive, as their main instruments (if such a thing exists among us polyfluticious lunatics). What do they have to offer what others don't have?
Come on, do tell!
headaches, heartaches and broken dreams - there should be a country western song about them.
heck apart from that i think they're great, ...almost as good as a modern made one.
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Re: Who plays old flutes?
SWEETNESS!
When I want something sweet (sounding) I reach for these!
Most contemporary "Irish flutes" are: powerful and rather brash in nature.
When I want something sweet (sounding) I reach for these!
Most contemporary "Irish flutes" are: powerful and rather brash in nature.
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there are plenty sweet sounding modern flutes...but let's pretend there isn't (denial)
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Hey Rama,
I'll beg to differ.
The closest I had found was a Gonzalo Caride and second was a Phil Bleazey. But I never did get to try a Rod Cameron or John Gallagher.
I'll beg to differ.
The closest I had found was a Gonzalo Caride and second was a Phil Bleazey. But I never did get to try a Rod Cameron or John Gallagher.
Keep on Tootin!
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Hi Ramarama wrote: hmmm let's see..they offer... cracks, broken keys, warped bores, strangled tenons, off pitched, unmodern tuning, false pride, denial; i guess they call all that 'character'.
headaches, heartaches and broken dreams - there should be a country western song about them.
heck apart from that i think they're great, ...almost as good as a modern made one.
Can I have your F Prattens then?
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